Quite often motion smoothing does the same job in reducing visible grain. Caveat here, I don't attempt to remove or reduce film grain as I do appreciate it is part of the movie, I just grump about it while watching!! Click to expand Drongo Distinguished Member. Starship Troopers UHD I deleted that comparison because it would result in further willy-waving as evinced in your further reply to lgans.
But Sir, It's not fair, he started it first : And he's going around doing it everywhere too. Look, he just did it again! Except: you edited at 8. Would definitely recommend. Shillers Novice Member. I have the exact same question about reducing film grain on the , but specifically for older blu rays.
What noice reduction settings did you change in the end? There's too much film grain on some older movies. It's even more noticeable on a 77" TV! Movie Studios trying to convince you that grain is artistic, is like saying the naked emperor really IS wearing clothes!
Personally, I detest the speckley, snowy fuzziness. Light bleed is taken away from screens with OLED and grain is ok on them. I just don't get it. The entire point of HD is to see the film as close it was intended to look like in the cinema. If that included grain then so be it.
LV Administrator Staff member. Drongo said:. I have some UHD 4K discs where the grain levels are far in excess of the cinema release in certain sections. So if the grainy un-polished look is more natural and better, than why do so many people favor The Final Cut of Blade Runner, to the Director's Cut then?
Originally Posted by ironpony. J oel. Grain is actually part of the detail. If you start scrubbing grain away as it's practiced often by some big studios to prep for a sharp blu ray release then you're really wiping off the detail. Sometimes it's good to see a nice bit of fur on your transfers. Take The Burbs'.
The Burbs' got a great transfer from Arrow Films, but you'll always see some grain in low light like at the Klopek's house. Criterion does good grain management and usually pristine transfers. MGM does good work, too. Though they use a lot of dated masters versions used for previous dvd's - still "technically HD" but not captured with current equipment which renders better.
Dvd's are not HD, they are standard def, but are taking an HD source most of the time. Blu rays, same thing, except with a BD you get the full experience, an actual HD presentation, instead of a lines of resolution in SD. Originally Posted by JohnAV.
Have you brought over someone technical to examine your picture playback quality? Last edited by SunShines; at AM. So I was just about to write again, saying I just tested E. Extra-Terrestrial and that it was the best-looking movie yet, with the least amount of grain. So the "film vs digital" argument shouldn't be the issue. Then I tested Bohemian Rhapsody, and there were no sign of grains at all.
I have absolutely no idea what has happened. All of the settings which I have also tweaked a gazillion times before were returned to the usual states, and it still looks fine. I even tried to elicit the grains on purpose, but no matter how much I tried, I wasn't able to bring back the grains I so desperately tried to get rid of only 30 minutes ago.
I have no idea what happened — but as long as it stays this way, I'm very happy. Thanks given by: SunShines Member since: May I think you encounter a HDMi handshake issue.
Where you saw this added noise artifacts. Make sure the path from the player to display is using HDMI premium certified cables, not just high speed examples. These cables are not expensive at all, usually have this emblem on the packaging.
Member since: Jul Blu-ray collection: 3. No, I'm not really sure where to get hold of these people here in Norway. The only places I know of that calibrate TVs, are the retailers who sell them, but they just use part-time highschoolers to adjust the settings according to a standard set of values. I have friends who did that, and they openly admit they had no idea what they were doing.
And I have no idea where to find professionals here. Thanks for answering! No wonder they are so hard to come by. Find More Posts by sapiendut. DVD collection: 4. Digital collection: 7. Could definitely be cables. I had white noise in some movies not all and it all went away completely by replacing all my hdmi cables.
Blu-ray reviews: 3. Some of it was shot Supermm which is a 3-perf format which will show a lot of film grain because it's optically expanded in the lab. But I doubt the opening was shot on film - it's probably all digital, so if you're seeing anything, it's not film grain, it's noise. But I'm not seeing any problems. Member since: Aug I've been looking into the issue. The problem is when 35mm film is scanned upto 6. I personally hate it but other's like it.
The last thing i want say is that grains provide much needed fibre. Fibre prevents straining. Do you experience any strain when watching blue rays? Be happy Sent from mobile on a crappy keyboard. Pls excuse typos. Santy Well-Known Member. And there are movies shot on digital camera and noise added intentionally during post production. Sent from my GT-I using Tapatalk 2. Joined Jul 26, Messages 23 Points 13 Location kolkata.
GRAIN is nothing but noise in a digital format and it has nothing to do with celluloid, rather celluloid is noisefree. If the camerawork is poor, one may experience soft or misty photography but grains are manifestation of noise which is induced during digital encoding. I think its a deliberate move to punish home viewers. Joined Feb 5, Messages Points The reason has more to do with ingrained preferences.
Grain has been an integral part of analog film and people have an innate preference to equate grain with a big screen experience in a way similar to the ambient white noise preferred by people on LPs However, maintaining natural looking grain when compressing a video to fit on a DVD is almost impossible because video compression relies on smoothening similar looking pixels With a Blu Ray and the extra space available , the video mastering model do not need to apply aggressive compression and therefore the graininess appears in its full natural glory.
The type, texture, and amount of grain also depends on the film stock used. There was a time when the film to digital transformation was happening in Hollywood,Director's and DP's insisted they add a bit of grain and bloom to the digital footage so it could look like film.
Also a lot of CGI work needed to have grain added to it in post production to match the grainy footage it used to get composited on.
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